Good News According To Rob Bell

hear about the original meaning of the gospel, good news and church – you just might be surprised. 

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9 Responses to “Good News According To Rob Bell”

  1. Brandon Says:

    The good news of Christianity isn’t that God is going to repair the world through love and compassion. The good news of Christianity is that he died to pay the price of our sins, and so that we can be forgiven. Sin isn’t some side point in the back of this massive process God was planning. It was the entire mission.

    • goodnewsto Says:

      Yes, Jesus pays the price for our sins but…sin was the mission? I thought the mission was the great co-Mission to make students (disciples) of Jesus?

      Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people.

      Matthew 4:23 (New International Version)

      What verse quoting Jesus is the basis for your statement that its all about sin?

  2. Raymond Murphy Says:

    I note the entry was ‘posted on March 20, 2009’ but can you tell me when the actual video clip was made?

  3. Rex Thompson Says:

    this looks like a nooma video. What number? I would like to purchase it for use as a teaching aid in my sunday school class.

    I love the way Rob reveals the cultural context of Jesus’ teachings and events. The restoration of the created world WAS the mission of Jesus. The novel way Jesus presents it is that the retoration begins with you and me, not a cosmic, world-wide cataclysm or event. Awesome and terrifying at the same time!

  4. Robert Puckett Says:

    Bell makes some historical errors, and thus contextual errors. He also misses what the apostles considered the crucial part the good news. (Pun on crucial intended.)

    No one called Agustus “dominus”. The Christian use of the word Lord (kurios, Greek) originates from the Septuagint translation of the Hebrew scriptures, not from Roman use of the word dominus (Lord). The following is from a college Roman history textbook. (I was a classics major.)

    “The first 300 years of the Empire are usually dealt with under the subheading Principate, from the word princeps, one of the emperors’ chief titles up to A.D. 282. The implication of this title was that the emperor, although the acknowledged head of state, was only primus inter patres, first among equals within the Roman nobility, and that he governed in cooperation with them. The period after 282, however, is often called the Dominate, because the emperors were undisguisedly autocratic, the title princeps was completely abandoned, and the title dominus, lord and master, prevailed. (246, Allen M. Ward, A History of the Roman People.)

    Where did he get that information about those gods being so popular in Roman religion?

    Where did he get the information about Augustus’s death being heralded as evangelion? That’s not true. It may be an anachronism said about him by later historians (the poet Virgil or Plutarch), but it’s not historically true. No one thought much of him even after his adopted step-father, Julius Caesar was murdered by the senators. It was after a period of time that he slowly began to gain prominence.

    Pilate did not order the death Jesus because he was politically subversive, but in order to keep peace with the Jews. It’s misleading to say that the Romans crucified anyone whom they thought was a threat.

    The heart of the gospel is that Christ died for sins. That’s the message from Genesis 3:15-Revelation.

    Check out Romans 5.
    “While we were sinners Christ died for us. (Rom 5:8)

    Christ died for our sins. (1Cor 15:3)

    [He] gave himself for our sins. (Gal 1:4)

    In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins. (Eph. 1:7)

    Since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus…let us draw near to God. (Heb 10:19-22)

    Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, TO BRING YOU TO GOD. (1 Pet 3:18, I added the caps 😉

    God…loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. (1 Jn 4:10)

    You are worthy…because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God. (Rev 5:9).

    Our commitment to Jesus Christ (including our sacrificial love for others) springs from the knowledge of his commitment to us (his sacrificial love for others). That’s the good news. It’s actual news. The body of Christ exists because Jesus died for sins, rose from the dead and sent the Holy Spirit.

    This is what John means in his letter when he says, “We love because he first loved us.” In his gospel of John makes it clear that Jesus crucifixion for our healing was his glorification. (John 3 and John 17:1)

    So discipleship is not the good news, that’s the result of the good news. The good news is what Jesus Christ did on the cross. That’s why Christian represent their religion with that symbol of execution.

    “God forbid that I should boast of anything but the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world is crucified to me and I to the world!” (Gal. 6:14)

  5. Robert Puckett Says:

    I didn’t mean Augustus’s birth, not death.

  6. Robert Puckett Says:

    having trouble with my negatives. I meant his birth.

  7. goodnewsto Says:

    What about Rob Bell’s points about the brute military force and peace? Militaries today have killed more innocent people (“collateral damage”), including Christians, as in Iraq, than the Romans ever did.

    Also, I agree Bell does make some questionable statements. Like his recent article on the so-called Advent.
    http://www.relevantmagazine.com/god/deeper-walk/features/23640-why-advent#disqus_thread

    Actually this should be about the advents. Christmas is celebrated on 3 completely different days in Christianity around the world. This article really misses the boat and Rob Bell should know better. There is no such thing as the church “calendar” – there are church calendars, the Catholic calendar we in West follow but what about the Orthodox church calendar and the Armenian church calendar.

    Finally, Jesus himself and the rest of his early followers did none of these because they were Jewish. Check this out if you’d like to hear how Jesus really would have prayed!

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